Norbury events & news at 31 May

This Saturday:

  • 10am-1pm. Love Norbury Clean Up Day

  • 10am-12noon. NGRA organised coffee morning at the Library
  • 11am-4pm. Norbury Through Your Lens photo exhibition is on at the Methodist Church 11am-4pm.

  • 30pm (meal); 7.3pm. Film Gifted

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This Sunday. Noon to 4pm sees Love Norbury’s Norbury by Sea Summer Festival

St Helen’s Road Triangle

I have reprinted my pamphlet on the chronology of Norbury History whch had sold out, and published the second issue of Norbury History newsletter. They will be on sale at the bookstall I am running.

June Police-Community Contact Sessions – see previous posting

Friday 29 June. 2-6pm. Norbury Manor Primary School Summer Fair

It has offered a stall space to Love Norbury. If you can help run it please contact Love Norbury’s Secretary

30 June. Something Old, Something New…Haydn, Mozart and Todd’s Mass in Blue

2018 Summer Concert

Changing People’s Behaviour over litter and fly-tipping

As follow-up to a query to me about the need to try and change the behaviour of people responsible for litter and fly-tipping, Councillors Stuart Collins, in charge of the refuse and street cleaning services, has explained to me:

‘(W)e’ll be doing some new anti litter banners with the new fixed penalty fine rates, also will be doing some plain clothes enforcement along the high road and in parks on sunny days. Will put signs up re littering in our parks hopefully before August so people can’t say they didn’t know.

We are also in middle of schools education visits so hopefully the next generation will listen even if their parents often don’t.

We are getting some of the ideas from KBT  for the campaign , the luminous footprints to the bug belly bins is one we have tried.

Will keep in touch re the enforcement operation and let you know the results.

KBT – Keep Britain Tidy

Planning Applications

  • 32-34 Fairview Road (18/02064/DISC)

Discharge of some of the conditions for demolition and building 9 flats.

Construction and logistics plan yet to be submitted.

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  • 14 Granville Gardens (18/02704/GPDO).

Erection of single storey rear extension projecting out 3.8 metres with a maximum height of 3.5 metres. (Only adjoining neighbours can comment)

  • 76 Green Lane (18/02632/LE).

Retention of outbuilding as self contained dwelling.

  • 2A Green Lane Gardens (18/02057/DISC)

Retention of a 2-storey block to rear to provide 2 x two bedroom flats (Discharge of condition 3 of permission 17/05729/FUL).

  • 136 Northborough Road (18/01905/HSE)

Erection of single storey rear extension.

  • 4 Ryecroft Road (18/02255/HSE)

Alterations to front and side elevations; and 18/02497/HSE. Erection of single storey rear extension

Crooks use Norbury Shurguard to run illegal business

Manor Farm Nature Space Wild Flower Meadow 

This is an on-going project. Details about the Fram Group can be obtained via

Norbury Park Ward Councillors

Sherwan Chowdhury (Labour)


Alisa Flemming (Labour)


Drop  in surgery on the last Saturday of every month from 11am to 12pm, St Oswald Church, St Oswald road, (no appointment necessary)

New Safer Neighbourhood Team for Norbury Park 

Police Sergeant – Jay Peacock and Constables  Sardar Ahsan  and  Michael Jones

Crime Statistics Norbury & Pollards Hill Ward 22-26 May  

Theft from Motor Vehicle 22 May ENA ROAD
Possession of Cannabis   STREATHAM HIGH ROAD
Possession of Cannabis   NORBURY AVENUE
Making Off   LONDON ROAD
Att Burglary Residential 23 May GRANDEN ROAD
Criminal Damage LONDON ROAD
Theft Person 24 May NORBURY CRESCENT
Att Burglary Residential 26 May POLLARDS HILL SOUTH
Att Burglary Commercial   LONDON ROAD
Other Theft   BBECH ROAD
Theft from Motor Vehicle NORTHBOROUGH ROAD

The Thunder Storm 26/27 May

Here are replies to my request to readers for information on flooding and surface water darining during Saturday and Sunday night’s tremendous thunder storm.

‘An impressive storm indeed! No flooding or puddles here, everything drained away well on Kilmartin Avenue.’

‘During the storm there was floods of water going down Norbury Court Road, but all seems ok today to be honest so it looks like all has drained away fine.’

‘Beech Road:  water running down pavement/road from just above St Philip’s Church Hall, from the edge of the building site.  It hasn’t been doing it for a while, since we have had a relatively dry period of weather.  I reported the apparent leak some months ago to both the Council and Thames Water (the pavement turned into an icy slide during the winter).  There is now “Suspect Leak” painted on the pavement but it doesn’t look as if any action has been taken.  It could be a leak or I’m told there may be an underground spring in the area.

Likewise, we also reported flooding on the corner of Norbury Court Road/Beech Road some months ago; it looks as if they had fixed that (probably by clearing out the drains) but I suspect from the debris in the area this morning that it flooded across the road again last night, probably due to the heavy rainfall in a short time.  The drain just above (outside 73, I think, Norbury Court road) is again overflowing into the same area.  Suspect it’s just poor maintenance!’

Debating the issues in Croydon

Please have a read of my last contribution on Croydon Citizen.

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Norbury events & news at 23 May

Saturday 2 and Sunday 3 June

A busy two days for Norbury

Saturday sees:

  • 10am-1pm. Love Norbury Clean Up Day

Organised from outside Norbury Edge.

  • 10am-12noon. NGRA organised coffee morning at the Library
  • 11am-4pm. Norbury Through Your Lens photo exhibition is on at the Methodist Church 11am-4pm.


  • 6.30pm (meal); 7.3pm. Film Gifted

St. Philip’s Church. Further details from

Sunday sees:

  • Noon to 4pm sees Love Norbury’s Norbury by Sea Summer Festival

St Helen’s Road Triangle

Police Community Contact Sessions June 2018

Monday 4 June. 3-5pm. Youth Surgery

Thursday 14 June 3-5pm. Have a Say Day

Monday  25 June. 2-4pm. ASB Surgery

Norbury LPT base, 1342-1344 London Road SW16

St. Philips Church Activities open to all

St. Philip’s Church, Beatrice Ave

Saturday 9 June. 7.30pm. St. Philips’  Quiz and Curry Night

Please let Father Younnis know if you would like to come to

St. Philip’s Church, Beatrice Ave

Table tennis: Every Friday 10am – 12.30pm. Modest subscription payable

Computer sessions: Every Friday 10.30am – 12.15pm. Free of charge.

Saturday June 23. 1-4pm

Friends of Norbury Park Community event

Friends of Norbury Park are putting the final touches to their community event.  There will activities for children. I will lead a walk around the Park talking about the history and showing the local of the Council’s masterplan proposals and Environment Agency proposals for participants to comment on. There will also be stalls, inc: a Friends Information and table top sale and my bookstall. The activity will be centred up near the BMX track, the pavilion and the cattle trough  where the Friends financed benches have now been installed.

Further details nearer the date.

To become a member of the Friends please contact

News in brief

David the Minister at the Baptist Church is retiring.

Belinda Letby, the Deacon, at Norbury Methodist Church has a Facebook page at

The revised demolition proposals for the Norbury Trading Estate to start in April 2019 have been submitted to the Council: Application Refs: 18/02256/PAD, 18/02257/PAD, 18/02258/PAD, 18/02259/PAD.

Crime Figures 16-19 May. Norbury & Pollards Hill Ward

 Other Theft 16 May 2018 Stanford Road
ABH Norbury Crescent
Theft of Motor Vehicle 17 May Norbury Court Road
ABH Norbury Crescent
Theft from Motor Vehicle Briar Avenue
Theft from Motor Vehicle 18 may Ardfern Avenue
Theft from Motor Vehicle Northborough Road
Theft from Motor Vehicle 19 May Dunbar Avenue
Theft Dwelling Norbury Crescent




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Norbury Through Your Lens 2 June


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Norbury Clean Up Day 2 June

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Norbury Planning News at 20 May

Change of approach by Planning Committee

The Love Norbury Planning Committee meetings have had a lot of paper work which has taken a lot of time to prepare. In order to reduce the workload and given that it is now possible for everyone to be notified of planning applications, links will be sent directly from the Planners to the Committee members to look at. At the meetings the plans will be displayed on a screen and the drafting of comments prepared at them, rather than up to now after discussion at the meetings. Members will in future check decisions, appeals, enforcements,  directly on the Planning Register rather than through a report to the meetings. The Committee is always looking for new people to join it as representatives of their Residents Association. If you want to know more please contact

Guide to Planning Register and receiving emails about applications

At the meeting with Residents Associations held earlier this year the planners promised that they would be setting up a method to enable every resident to register and receive email notifications about planning applications whether their neighbours properties, their street, their neighbourhood, ward. That guide is now available and can be downloaded here:

Public Access Register – Searching and Registering Guide

With the new ward boundaries the Planning Register was amended to put in the new ward names. This meant that applications under the old ward names could not be accessed unless the individual property name or application number was known. At the request of the Love Norbury Planning Committee the register was amended within 24 hours to put back in the old ward names as well.

If you comment on applications please tick the Planning Register box to have your views emailed back to you; and forward on for the Planning Committee at

New Planning Applications

Craignish Norbury Trading Estate  (18/02258/PAD). Demolition of Units 3 and 4 April 2019

This link does not work and the application does not show up on the planning register. This has been drawn to the attention of the Planners.

92 Dalmeny Avenue (18/02359/GPDO)

Erection of single storey rear extension projecting out 6 metres with a maximum height of 3 metres. Only adjoining neighbours, side and back can comment.

224 Green Lane (17/04916/HSE)

Extension of existing vehicle crossover

1393 London Road (18/01685/FUL)

Side extension, loft conversion and internal alterations to convert existing D1 English School office unit into 9 flats.

Planning Approvals

(other than Lawful Development Certificates)

1264 – 1266 London Road (18/00337/ADV). Erection of externally illuminated wall mounted signs and non-illuminated fascia sign, and erection and replacement of freestanding internally illuminated signs

73 Norton Gdns (18/01756/NMA). Minor change to design re-demolition of an existing single storey rear extension and erection of single storey rear extension (amendment to planning permission 17/03452/HSE).

Planning Committee Comments on Applications

158 Green Lane

Although it states it is for 158 Green Lane, Norbury, the maps show are for the area containing 21A Green Lane, Woodcote/Purley. (See FRA Figure 1 Environment Agency Flood Zone Map, Figure 2 Environment Agency Surface Flooding Map, Appendix C Critical Drainage Area Maps, Appendix D Risk of Flooding from Surface Water, Appendix E Surface Geology Area Map and Appendix E Surface Geology Area Map). The first line of Conclusions (page 8) gives the development site as 21A Green Lane. So either the assessment has been done for the wrong Green Lane address, or two separate assessments have been carried out and the report has mixed them together somehow. In any event, it doesn’t look as if the report is for 158 Green Lane SW16. Clarification is needed from the applicants about this. If the text is for 21A Green Lane then they need to submit the proper report for 158 Green Lane. If the text is for 158 Green Lane then they need to re-submit the report with the correct maps contained in it.

This serious mistake should invalidate the application and it be withdrawn, and the applicant should re-submit the correct documentation.

The Committee assumes that the approach taken on the flood risk assessment at 158 should be similar to that for 212 Green Lane. Given the close proximity of these two properties the Committee suggests that Development Control examines both flood risk assessments together and constructs Conditions that mean that the same approach is taken to reduce flood risk in all its forms. There should also be a condition for a water butt.

40 Hillcote Ave – proposed extension

The Planning Committee has commented: Given that the side wall of the property is not overlooking other houses, the amenity of the residents might be improved by the addition of extra windows.

1460 London Road – proposed India sweet shop

The Planning Committee has submitted the following comment:

While there is no indication of equipment to cook to make sweets on the premises, in view of the Patricia Cafe’s situation (1579 London Road; 17/05685/CONR), there should be a condition that no cooking can take place on the premises. There appears to be a lack of information about bin storage detail.

80 Newlands Rd

The Committee has objected to this conversion to a one and three bed house.

The Committee is concerned that it is not clear how many people are expected to be living in these two flats. The Design and Access statement suggests Flat 1 will be for two people sharing the single bedroom.

However Flat 1 has a playroom, This suggests the possibility of a child living in the flat. As this is only a one bedroom flat this would mean the bedroom would be shared by a lone parent and child, which is not satisfactory. Would the parent be tempted to use the playroom as a bedroom for the child?

As a three bedroom flat this could house 6 people. However, it also has a study on the 2nd floor. This could also be turned into a bedroom by the occupants, adding to the number of people living in the flat. There is a danger that this flat could be let on a multi-occupancy basis rather than used by a family. The Committee suggests:

(1) that clarification be sought on the number of anticipated residents in each flat

(2) that Conditions be placed to prevent the use of the playroom and study as bedrooms

(3) that Conditions specify the maximum number of people who can be accommodated e.g. as was the case with 14 and 150 Nor bury Crescent.

It appears that the proposed storage of bicycles and bins at the front of the property is for use by the residents of Flat 1, while the residents of Flat 2 will have to take their bins and cycles through the house. It should be possible to consider having all the storage at the front for both Flats, and increase the amenity area for Flat 1 at the rear. The bin storage areas will need to be in conformity with the proposed changes to the recycling bin provision.

The Committee is concerned that the greater the number of people living in the two flats will aggravate the existing problems of competition for car parking. Para 5.2. of the Design and Access Statement states: ‘Parking is not considered to be an issue as the proposal is not making provision for parking for this one bedroom flat as the site is well served by public transport facilities short walking distances from the proposal site reducing the dependence on the car.’ This statement ignores the fact that the occupants of the one bedroom flat cannot be prevented from having a car, and that if the three bedroom flat becomes multi-occupied there could be more than one car owned by the future residents. The side streets along London Rd are becoming increasingly difficult in relation to competition for car parking spaces. While on paper the public transport seems more than adequate, in fact the 109 bus route is becoming more and more crowded, and the railway service at Norbury Station is not only unreliable but also congested at peak times. The increased number of planning approvals and number of residents plus the use of family housing for multi-occupied renting means that there are more and more people trying to balance car ownership/public transport use. Unless restrictions are placed on the maximum number of people which can live in the two Flats this application lays the basis for being overdevelopment in relation to the property, the street and the pressure of transport services, and therefore contribute to a lowering of the amenity of other residents.

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Norbury events & news at 20 May

Today Sunday 20 May. Start of new train timetables

There are complex changes effecting the number of trains to and from Victoria, London Bridge and Milton Keynes, to East/West Croydon, Epsom/Epsom/Downs and Caterham. These timetable booklets are available: No. 36: East Croydon and Clapham Junction to Watford Jn and Milton Keynes Central, and No. 39: Selhurst and Balham to London. The latter details the services to and from Victoria & London Bridge to West Croydon & Sutton and to East Croydon & Caterham.

The Love Norbury Transport Committee will be monitoring the effect of the new timetable and the reliability of the service. If you experience problems please let it know by emailing

Monday 21 May. 2-4pm. Have a say day with the local police

Norbury LPT base, 1342-1344 London Road

Saturday 26 May 26. 11am-2pm. Biggin Wood Clean Up

Come and join The Friends of Biggin Wood are meeting at South Gate on Covington Way. Croydon Council support the event each year by providing a rubbish collection and tools. Members of the London Wildlife Trust group have been invited to come along. (See also below)

Saturday 2 June. 10am-noon. Norbury Coffee Morning

NGRA Coffe

Organised by Norbury Green Residents Association Community

Norbury Library, Beatrice Avenue. Free coffee/tea/hot chocolate, biscuit and a natter……

Norbury & Pollards Hill Councillors Maggie Mansell and Shafi Khan hold  their advice surgery at 11am.

Saturday 2 June, Norbury Clean Up Day

Details will be available soon.

Sunday 3 June. Noon-4pm.  Norbury by the Sea

Love Norbury Summer Festival Fun Day

Norbury by the Sea

St. Helen’s Rd Triangle.

Lots of free seaside related activities and entertainment, live music, a range of stalls and more.

Saturday 9 June. 7.30pm. Quiz & Curry Night

Vegetarians catered for

St Philips Church, Beatrice Rd

Saturday 23 June. 2.30pm. Images of Norbury from the 20th Century

David Clark - Images of Norbury Poster


This is fast being booked up, so to check whether there is still room for more people please ring the Library at 020 3700 1011.

What do you actually like about Norbury?

There are lots of moans and groans about the litter, the fly-tipping, the car parking, the dominance of certain types of shops, etc.

It is understandable why residents who have lived here for many years complain about what they see as the decline of Norbury. But there are many people who have moved here in the last 4/5 years. Apart from the lower house prices and rents compared with Inner London, what attracted them to come here? The reasons may be that it is full of parks and green spaces, lots of trees, is close to public transport (even if Southern Railway and Thameslink cannot run an efficient service). So what do you like about Norbury? Please send me your views for posting on Norbury Watch to

News in Brief

Norbury Hall Park. The gardening group weeded the  flower borders in middle of park on the weekend of 12/13 May. The azaleas were looking lovely.

Norbury Park. The concrete bases for the Friends of Norbury Park benches around the old cattle trough are being laid.

Glimpses of Goa. Norbury resident Iggy gave an illustrated talk about Goa for Croydon Camera Club at  Shirley Methodist Hall on 16 May. The Club’s Annual Exhibition is open until 29 May (not Sundays) at Clocktower Café Gallery, at the Croydon Town Hall.

Friends of Biggin Wood

The creation of Norbury Park Ward has brought into the area another important green area: Biggin Wood. The Friends were set up last year and have already made a big impact working with the Council and Wildlife Trust to improve it. ‘Steps’ have been made to improve accessability. Its website contains short history of the Wood as part of the extensive Great North Wood.

The Woodland Trust features the Wood at

The London Wildlife Trust  discusses the Wood at

Car parking, speeding and 20mph

These issues have been discussed at recent Residents Associations Annual General Meetings, and the Love Norbury Transport Committee. The Committee has prepared advice for actions that can be organised by Residents Associations Committees, such as speed monitoring, surveys of siting of 20mph signs, locations for traffic calming measures, etc. The Committees will need the active support of their members to undertake this work.

Norbury Photographs

David Clark draws our attention to the Norbury Photographs Facebook which contains many historic photos of the area, as well as reminiscences, mainly by people who used to live in the area.

Crime Statistics 10 – 15 May Norbury & Pollards Hill Ward

Theft from Motor Vehicle 10 May Ederline Avenue
Theft of cycle 11 May London Road
Theft of  Motor Vehicle 12 May St Oswald’s Road
Robbery Person 13May Ryecroft Road
Theft from Motor Vehicle 14 May Norbury Crescent
Theft from Motor Vehicle Newlands Road
Possession of Cannabis 15 May Melrose Avenue

Norbury had  54 moped crimes in five years


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Norbury by the Sea 3 June


Can you spare a few hours on the 3rd June to help set up the morning of the event, packup after the event, help with various activities during the event and steward during the event to ensure the event runs safely and smoothly?

If you can help then please email Anita on stating the times you are available on this day.


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