Norbury News at 15 May


The Norbury Edge re-branding as Spirit night-club

20mph Zones approved

The remaining 20mph zones were approved by the Transport Advisory Committee, including the one covering the NGRA, NVRA and PHRA areas. The Conservative Councillors have referred the decision to the Scrutiny Committee in order to try and hold up implementation while evaluations are undertaken on what effects the existing zones including the one covering the SERA and NATHRA areas. Residents in other parts of the Borough are concerned about the lack of enforcement, the pressure put on drivers moving at 20mph from impatient drivers behind them, and the fact that other calming traffic measures may still be needed. The date for the meeting has yet to be agreed.

A local resident posted concern about the status of Green Lane on Friends of Norbury facebook: ‘Looking at the map of the new 20 mph limit being introduced I’m confused as to whether Green Lane is included or not. From the map with the red line it appears to be exempt but not listed on the list……’

I asked the Councillors for clarification. Cabinet Member for Transport Stuart King explains:

‘Green Lane was retained as 30mph when the new zone was introduced into Area 1 in September last year.

There may be some confusion as there is a small stretch of Green Lane that is in Lambeth, which also introduced 20mph limits into their borough recently. They opted to include main and distributor roads within the 20mph zones, which explains why the Lambeth portion of Green Lane is 20mph.  This was covered in the Advertiser at the time (see link).

Graffiti on Railway Line

Local resident David Clark who looks after the planting area at the Station by the pedestrian crossing and up the alley to the Station, and runs the bookcases for the Cancer shop, has raised the issue of graffiti along the railway line. He has received this reply from Stephen Norris, Area Station Manager, London Bridge and Metro, Govia Thameslink Railway Limited

‘I am responsible for the removal of graffiti from the areas on station premises under GTR lease. Some areas around stations are controlled by Network Rail. The images show areas that we have asked Network Rail to address. I will again chase the action on these items and inform Network Rail that we are receiving complaints.’

Railway Car Lot

Given continuing problems with the condition of the former car lot on Norbury Ave at the Railway Station, a local resident asked Councillor Maggie Mansell to ask the planners to consider whether to take enforcement action. Stephen Whitfield (Planning Enforcement Officer -Enforcement & Trees Team) has replied:

‘I still have an open planning enforcement investigation concerning the use of the  land for parking vehicles, even though this use appears to have now ceased. I am aware of the issue of the insecure gates. The owner has had new gates manufactured (to match the railings) but he has not installed them as he is fearful of enforcement action. I have advised him to submit a planning application to install the new gates. Obviously this will then be considered, and if successful would hopefully resolve the issue of the security of the site entrance, but not necessarily prevent rubbish being dumped over the fence. I have discussed this matter with him and advised him of his responsibilities re the tidiness of the land.’

Large lorries in side streets

Recently a very large Tesco store delivery lorry went down Oakhill Rd from Croindene. I asked Councillor Stuart King, Cabinet member for Transport, whether there is anything that can be done to prevent this unnecessary cut through by very large vehicles. This is his reply:

This is a difficult area. There is no limit (other than the national limit) on the size of vehicle that can use the highway.  Provided that the vehicle is taxed and insured it is permitted to use all of the roads that form the highway.

A local authority can introduce weight limits on roads where such a limit is required, usually for structural reasons.  However, we are required to maintain access to properties by any vehicle that may have reason to service a property, so these limits can be difficult to introduce and almost impossible to enforce.  We can also introduce measures to physically restrict access, provided that good alternative routes are available, but this would also restrict legitimate access and every property will need to have access by large vehicles for household deliveries, their refuse collection, and emergency attendance by a fire engine.

This is not therefore an easy problem to solve.  In some circumstances it may be that a controlled parking scheme would help to rationalise on–street parking or the introduction of a one-way street may help to allow these vehicles to use the road occasionally without causing congestion problems.  However, in my experience, such measures are usually only supported by local residents where there is a persistent problems rather than occasional issues.


About seancreighton1947

Since moving to Norbury in July 2011 I have been active on local economy issues with Croydon TUC and Croydon Assembly, and am a member of the latter's Environment Forum. I am a member of the 5 Norbury Residents Associations Joint Planning Committee, and a Governor of Norbury Manor Primary School. I write for Croydon Citizen at I co-ordinate the Samuel Coleridge-Taylor and Croydon Radical History Networks and advise the North East People's History Project.. I give history talks and lead history walks. I retired in 2012 having worked in the community/voluntary sector and on heritage projects. My history interests include labour movement, mutuality, Black British, slavery & abolition, Edwardian roller skating and the social and political use of music and song. I have a particular interest in the histories of Battersea and Wandsworth, Croydon and Lambeth. I have a publishing imprint History & Social Action Publications.
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