News Up-date at 17 September

Are Retail Landlords Pricing Businesses out of Norbury?

A Beauty Clinic shop on Norbury’ s High St (London Rd) is up for sale.

The rent is £15,000 per annum. The buyer will have to pay a premium of £28,000. The annual turnover is stated on Right Move as  £80,000 per annum  A new lease is available for five years. Other costs to be met before any income is generated include business rates, energy and water.

Planning Application Crunch

Samy Counder, a member of the Joint Planning Committee,  has posted this on Norbury Streetlife.

Developers are targeting Norbury ;  we note an increase in planning applications to convert family homes into tiny flats. This will only increase local population, traffic, pressure on parking, schools, transport, medical services, sewer systems & possibly a drop in water / gas pressures.  Croydon Council no longer send out letters to alert neighbours of potential developments . We even have garages being ‘converted’ into bogus gyms….  Do your bit by keeping an eye out for building works or garages ….with residents in them. We need planning enforcement to do their work…

Fed up with the stickers on London Rd

Following concern expressed to Croydon Cabinet member Stuart Collins about the number of stickers advertising massage and other services that have defaced Norbury’s High St, the officers have been trying to deal with the matter. Andy Opie (the Director of Safety) has told Cllr Maggie Mansell:

‘We need to be careful where the stickers are removed from in case any damage is caused.  If they are signs, street lights etc then we would have to pay Skanksa for any scratches or damage caused.   Similarly with stickers on private property.  So we are using specialist teams to remove where we can to remove that risk – but the volume of them means that we will probably be removing them for a long time.

The good news is that my team caught someone putting them up and fined them for it.’

Some questions and issues:

This answer is both good (re-catching somebody) and disappointing.

Andy Opie’s comments raise issues for the Norbury Clean-up day. If we could clear the stickers away it would make a great visual difference to the look of the high street.

The following questions and issues arise:

  • Can the phone numbers be rung to identify the people behind the numbers and to take action against them?
  • If the massage ones are a cover for the sex industry can the police check them out with a view to taking action?
  • If anyone is caught putting up the stickers can they be given community service to clear stickers off instead of fined?
  • As many of the stickers are advertising commercial services and action can action be taken against them after a warning and request to take them off?
  • Will shop keepers take the stickers off the sides of their shop fronts?
  • Can Skanska take responsibility to take stickers off their lighting columns and to also take action against those behind the phone numbers?
  • Should Tfl be taking action or agreeing that the Council/RAs can take off their bus stops and another equipment columns they have?
  • Can the phone box and other service box owners on the high street be asked to give permission for the Council/RAs to take stickers off?

Steve O’Connell, the GLC member for Croydon, has said that will take on Tfl around this.

Norbury Muslim Centre Promotes Residents Associations

The website of the Norbury Muslim Centre at 1116 London Rd promotes Love Norbury and the Residents Associations. It states:

‘Norbury is fortunate to have active resident associations which, along with trying to develop a sense of community, are keen to help maintain and improve the area for local residents. The resident associations have been instrumental in campaigning to keep Norbury Library from closing, as well as, amongst other issues, helping to keep our streets tidy. The Prophet (may the peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said, ‘Whoever sees something evil should change it with his hand. If he cannot, then with his tongue; and if he cannot do even that, then in his heart. That is the weakest degree of faith.’ (Muslim) And he said, Whoever removes something harmful from the road of the Muslims has a good deed written for him. Anyone who has his good deed accepted will enter the Garden.’ (Bukhari) We would like to encourage all Muslims in Norbury to try and participate with their local resident associations in accordance with the dictates of our faith, in order to make our community a better place.’

The Centre holds a weekly football session for its members  in  Norbury Park between 11am and 1pm.

Do you live in the area between Norbury Avenue and Green Lane?

If you do have you joined the newest addition to our Residents Associations – Norbury Avenue and Thornton Heath Residents Association (NATHRA) yet? Given the very large area it covers and its ambitious set of ideas it needs lots of active members.  You can print a form off at

About seancreighton1947

Since moving to Norbury in July 2011 I have been active on local economy issues with Croydon TUC and Croydon Assembly, and am a member of the latter's Environment Forum. I am a member of the 5 Norbury Residents Associations Joint Planning Committee, and a Governor of Norbury Manor Primary School. I write for Croydon Citizen at I co-ordinate the Samuel Coleridge-Taylor and Croydon Radical History Networks and advise the North East People's History Project.. I give history talks and lead history walks. I retired in 2012 having worked in the community/voluntary sector and on heritage projects. My history interests include labour movement, mutuality, Black British, slavery & abolition, Edwardian roller skating and the social and political use of music and song. I have a particular interest in the histories of Battersea and Wandsworth, Croydon and Lambeth. I have a publishing imprint History & Social Action Publications.
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One Response to News Up-date at 17 September

  1. Regarding Samy’s comments below, I note this application:
    30 Norbury Close 16/04435/LE. Retention of single storey detached building at rear It is a gym/sportsroom and store.
    Are the council in a position to monitor this if it is allowed to go-ahead, so that this ‘gym’ isn;t actually a bed in a shed?


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