Welcome to Norbury Watch

I have created this blog as a way of bringing together details of news and issues about the the Norbury area of the London Borough of Croydon, given the growing number of community and other types of organisations active in the area.

As at 27 September I represent Norbury Village Residents Association on the Love Norbury Residents Associations’ Joint Planning Committee and chair its Transport Committee. I am chair of the newly formed Norbury Community Land Trust, and am a Governor of Norbury Manor Primary School. I also research and write about aspects of Norbury’s history.

Sean Creighton: sean.creighton1947@btinternet.com

Over the past two years there have been many issues of concern to residents including:

  • Litter and fly-tipping
  • Street cleaning
  • conversion of offices to residential
  • conversion of large houses to small flats
  • Houses in Multiple occupation
  • Changes to buildings without planning permission
  • Design issues e.g. former Norbury Police Station building and site
  • Run down and empty shops
  • Car parking competition
  • Traffic speeds in side streets
  • The proposed BMX track despite large local opposition
  • The illegal smokng in shishas bars
  • The use of a lot for selling cars next to Norbury Station
  • The run-down of the Norbury and Norbury Hall Parks
  • Planning permissions in the Pollards Hill area which are feared will aggravate water run-off problems already affecting some properties foundations

Four Residents Associations work together through the Love Norbury Partnership which has:

  • a Love Norbury discount card scheme which gives all resident association members’ discount in over 35 local shops
  • a Joint Planning Committee
  • a Transport Committee
  • a high street and retail sub-group
  • an events sub-group
  • a green spaces sub-group
  • a community spaces sub-group
  • an environment sub-group
  • the Knitting Norbury Together project

The Associations hold their own general and public meetings and organise social events. They are:

A range of activities are offered by:  local faith groups, Norbury Mums, the Allotments Society, Friends of Norbury Park, the Manor Farm Reserve group,  British Legion club, Norbury Bowling Club,  The Norbury Lawn Tennis Club, and the Cassandra Learning Centre.

Having been registered Norbury Community Land Trust is preparing ways to publicise its aims and seek members.

The three Councillors for the area are: Sherwan Choudury, Shafi Khan, Maggie Mansell


Updated 27 September 2017

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Norbury & the Police Consultation meeting

Norbury Councillor Maggie Mansell has provided the following notes on the Policing Croydon consultation meeting held on 4 October. 

A key point is that it is being proposed to have five hubs for Dedicated Ward Officers including one to be possibly based in Norbury Fire Station.

Present: Ch Sup Jeff Boothe, Deputy Mayor for Policing, Sup Park, Cllr Hamida Ali several other police, and about 50 community people.

Ch Sup Boothe

Situation Across the Met there are 73 counters, of which 33 are open 24 hours, 40 office hours. 7800 crimes/year are reported at counters (his figures don’t add up 26 a day 3.5 at counters). There has been a reduction in reported crimes but more are reported by Email or phone. Croydon has Park Lane main Police station with a public counter. And Windmill Road is the base for CID and the Custody suite. Park Lane has 44 visits / day of which 4.5 /day are to report a crime. Windmill Road has 5.6 visits per day of which 0.3 are to report a crime; mainly they are property enquiries.

Priorities: To develop other forms of accessibility; to divert from little used facilities; to protect the front line.


That Park Lane is the only 24-hour desk,

Windmill Road is Custody only,

To develop 5 new hubs as bases for Dedicated Ward Officers (DWO)

To close all other police centres.

DWOs continue to run community sessions and other face to face contacts.

Response teams continue as now.

A DWO team would be a minimum of 2 DWOs and a PC, Broad Green has 5 DWOs at present. The Hubs would be in Norbury and Shirley, New Addington/Fieldway and 2 in the south, possibly at Purley Fire station. Actual buildings are to be identified. (Possibly Norbury Fire Station). The idea is to cut down travel time from hub to wards. The staffing review would give Croydon 2.9 extra officers.


They are operating in difficult financial climate.

They want to improve access.

To increase DWO work time on the streets.

To use new technology more effectively, more efficiently.


Hubs would mean that Hubs are less than a mile walking distance to wards

The Met is having to make savings, but they are lobbying government.

Response times are the 2nd or 3rd best in London.

They may co-locate with Fire, or Local Authority bases.

Sarah Jones: Police are having to deal with other problems such as mental health. Police is the service of last resort.

101 staff have been transferred to 999 because of staff/skills shortage.

The consultation ends Friday at 5.30pm. Please respond on line.

See weblinks see earlier blog of Norbury news and events posted today.

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Cassandra Mental Health Open Day 14 October


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Norbury events & news at 5 October


Urgent need for residents who are lawyers and surveyors

Norbury Community Land Trust urgently needs residents who are lawyers and surveyors to give it advice on some land and property issues in Norbury. If you are, or have neighbours who are, please contact me at sean.creighton1947@btinternet.com

Friday 6 October. Closing date for policing consultation

Anita Konczak, Chair of Norbury Green RA, has sent out a message: ‘It is possible that the Norbury SNT police office may close!’. The Metropolitan Police Service held a public consultation session in Croydon on 4 October so that local people can learn about the changes with regards to accessing Met police services.’ The consultation closes tomorrow.  If you have time please have a look and consider putting in your views.



Saturday 7 October. 6pm. Loving Film and Curry Night

The film Loving is the story of Richard and Mildred Loving, a couple whose arrest for inter-racial marriage in 1960s Virginia began a legal battle that would end with the Supreme Court’s historic 1967 decision.

Meal starts 6pm – cost £3, film starts 7.30pm – cost £2

St Philip’s Church, Beech Rd

Please let Father Younnis know if you are coming for the meal (for catering purposes):


Sunday 8 October. 9.30am. Pollards Hill RA Clean-up

Meet at the top of Pollards Hill North.

Tuesday 10 October. Norbury Park consultation – close of consultation


Thursday 12 October. Love Norbury AGM


Saturday 14 October 7.30pm. Quiz and Curry Night

St Philip’s Church, Beech Rd

Please let Church know if you are coming for the meal (for catering purposes) at


Saturday 21 October. 7pm. Norbury Green Residents Association Quiz Night

NGRAQuiz Niht

Petition backs our MP’s private members bill on mental health and restraint

A petition has been started “Back Seni’s Law”. The organiser states: ‘Too many people have died as a result of restraint which was applied more than 9,500 times last year.  Steve Reed is my local MP.  He came 2nd in the ballot for private members’ bills this year so his proposed legislation has a good chance of getting passed – the more support we can get behind it, the better chance we have of succeeding.’ You can read more and sign the petition here:


You can also read about the issues on Steve Reed’s website:


Open Door at Norbury Methodist Church Fridays 7-9pm

Croydon Association for Pastoral Care in Mental Health runs  an Open Door club offering a welcome to anyone who has, or is recovering from, mental illness or distress. Mental health problems cross all boundaries of race, gender, culture, faith, social status, sexuality and all other social categories. CAPCMH welcomes all people. Having a mental problem can be a very isolating experience. CAPCMH offers friendship, accepting people as they are. When people are lonely life often seems pointless. It works to sow the seeds of hope by demonstrating that people are valued and loved.

Norbury Methodist Church, Pollards Hill Northrs friendship, accepting

Crime statistics 26 – 30 September

Another week of low numbers of recorded crimes.

Affray (1), burglary residential (1), common assault (1), criminal damage vehicle (1), robbery com(mercial) (1), robbery person (1), telecom (1).



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Steve Reed MP Guest Speaker Love Norbury AGM 12 October

AGM 2017 poster

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Norbury events at news at 1 October

Tuesday 3 October. 7.30pm Norbury’s Cllr Maggie Mansell discusses Croydon health services crisis

Norbury Councillor Maggie Mansell is one of the speakers at a briefing meeting organised by Croydon Assembly to examine the problems facing  Croydon’s health services, which were described earlier in the year by a Croydon GP as ‘A Perfect Storm’. Maggie is a former health service worker and until May was Chair of the Croydon Health and Well-being Board.

See further details at


Tuesday 10 October. Closing date for views on future of Norbury Park 

Friends of Norbury Park have sent out a reminder that the surrey on the future of the Park being carried out by consultants for the Council closes on 10 October (just before noon).

If you have not completed the survey yet you can do so at:


Thursday 12 October. Love Norbury AGM

The Annual General Meeting of Love Norbury AGM has Steve Reed,  our local MP, as guest speaker. Hear about LN’s achievements over the past year and the plans for the year ahead. Tell LN what you think the priorities for Norbury should be. Hear from the local Councillors and ask questions. Love Norbury Committee elections.

The Function Room, The Norbury Pub, 1300 London Rd

Friday 3 November. Evening. Fireworks

Norbury Lawn Tennis Club, Ederline Avenue entrance into Norbury Hall Park.

All welcome.

Details will be posted on this site soon.

Saturday 4 November. 2pm. Friends of Norbury Hall (Squirrel) Park Launch

Norbury Lawn Tennis Club, Ederline Rd entrance into Norbury Hall Park.

A group of local residents convened by Scots Estate Residents Association Committee met on Saturday 30 September to discuss launching a Friends of Norbury Hall Park.

Full details of the launch to be announced and will be posted on this site.

If you use the Park please book this date in your diary.

Tuesday 14 November. 7.30pm. Norbury Community Land Trust Launch

The Trust is now registered and has a bank account. The public launch will enable the founding Committee to discuss its aims and seek your support. Full details will be posted on this site. Please book this date in your diary.

Harlow Hall, Stanford/Oakhill Rds.

Successful Clean Up Day 30 September

Another successful Clean Up Norbury event organised by the Residents Associations Love Norbury partnership took place on the morning of Saturday 30 September. Volunteers went along London Rd  and side streets including Fairview and Roche Rds, and Norbury and Norbury Hall Parks. Local residents were joined by the three local Councillors Maggie Mansell, Shafi Khan, Sherwen Chowdhury, Stuart Collins (the Council Cabinet member in charge of Clean Up Croydon), Steve Connell (Greater London Authority member for Croydon and Sutton), and the four Conservative prospective candidates for the two Norbury Wards that come into being for the local elections in May. A lot of people walking past the gazebo and stall were given leaflets and spoken to, including several new residents into the area. Several are joining their local Association.

Norbury’s 97 year old Eric Sanders thriller novels set in Nazi Germany published


Croydon and the Slavery Business

Norbury Hall was built in the early 19th by William Coles, a member of a family involved in Britain’s slavery business. Norbury resident Sean Creighton’s essay on Croydon’s involvement in the Slavery Business has been published by Croydon Natural History & Scientific Society. £5 + £1.58 post (or free delivery within Norbury). Orders to sean.creighton1947@btinternet.com

Profiles of Norbury Residents

This is first of a new feature in Norbury Watch, profiles of Norbury residents who are doing interesting things.

(1) Ashtaq Arain

Norbury resident Ashtaq Arain is founder and a trustee of Global Humanitarian Relief Foundation (GHRF). Its main function is to fight poverty, hunger and empower orphans through education and serving humanity globally. GHRF works across countries in Africa, Asia and Europe helping the poor regardless of their race, religion, gender, nationality or political opinion.

Working on a partnership based approach with locally based NGOs, GHRF’s  main focus is to provide disadvantaged people wherever they happen to be with a dignified life. To reduce the cycle of dependence on aid it aims to focus on: education and skills training, provision of clean water, healthcare, income generation projects thus ensuring that the needy are not always dependent on NGOs for food and shelter.


Ashtaq was a Councillor in  Lewisham for twelve years from 1989, and a founder member of the Labour Party Black Sections. He is currently Chair of Norbury Ward Labour Party and a Governor of Norbury Manor Primary School. He runs Habari Duniani e-newspaper at





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News at 27 September

This Saturday – Clean Up Day

Clena Up Day

Progress with Police Station

A number of residents have been wondering about what is happening with the police station.

It appears there is a new owner, who has been able to borrow money from Octopus Property (£5.26m) and Cogress, a private equity firm (£1.9m) to fund the cost of the works. The builder is seeking approval for the way in which it intends to discharge the planning conditions.

The sale price of the flats are expected to be between £272k and £465k.

(Source re-loans. BDaily news bulletin blog)

Gym proposed for former Lahore Restaurant

The building that houses the former Lahore Kebab House is just over the border in Lambeth. The Lahore was closed following action against it for employing illegal labour, is subject to a planning application to convert the ground floor and basement into a 24 hour 7 day a week gym, which will not be staffed later evenings through to early morning. The Love Norbury Joint Planning Committee has objected on the grounds of the danger of crime against and safety of users when the gym is not staffed, possible noise adversely affecting residents in the block, and lack of need for a gym given Nuffield’s further along London Road.

604-10 Streatham High Rd

Lambeth is also where bordered up properties are in the circle of land that crosses the Borough boundary. A planning application proposes a block of 22 flats with no car parking and no way provision for deliveries. A number of residents have opposed it on grounds of over stretched car parking in nearby side streets, similar to the problems faced in Norbury, especially from commuters. The Love Norbury Joint Planning Committee has also objected on the grounds of overdevelopment in an increasingly dense cluster of new housing blocks in the triangle of Green Lane, Hermitage Lane and Streatham High Rd/London Rd.

1361 London Rd – raising the roof

The owner of 1316 London Rd was granted planning permission last year to turn the inside upper floors from storage to flats. He then was refused permission to build an extra floor. He then applied to raise part of the roof to give the flat in it a higher ceiling. The Joint Planning Committee opposed it on the grounds that the 2016 approval was allowing further overdevelopment of the area between London Rd and Sherlock Close. It requested referral to the Council’s Planning Committee if the officers wanted to approve it. Following discussions with the officers the JPC has withdrawn the referral because the former have agreed to tougher conditions about construction methods and materials which will have to be shown to be complied with prior to a start of works on site. The JPC has made its point and does not want to prevent the future occupants of the roof flat to be in lower standard accommodation.

Socialising on 24 September

One of the purposes of events run by resident associations and others is to be able to meet and welcome new residents who come, let them know the way in which new residents can be welcomed and let know what is happening. For other residents it’s a good chance for a catch-up with each other and a good gossip. Saturday saw this happening at the NVRA table top sale in the afternoon and the St Philp’s Church International Evening. Everyone is welcome to come along and meeting each other at the coffee mornings being organised in the Library by Norbury Green Residents Association on the first Saturday of each month.

New Planning Applications

If you have any views please email them to the Love Norbury Joint Planning Committee:


  • The Homestead, Gibson’s Hill

17/04018/FUL. Demolition of existing building: erection of three storey building with accommodation in roofspace comprising 6 three bedroom, 2 two bedroom and 1 four bedroom flats: formation of vehicular access and provision of associated parking. Consultation ends 11 October.


  • Gibsons Lodge Gibson’s Hill

7/04630/DISC. Discharge of condition 3 attached to planning permission 17/01354/ful fot the Demolition of a section of a single storey part of addition to a building and storage garage and shed: erection of single storey extensions and a detached storage facility. Consultation from 18 September.


17/04662/DISC. Discharge of condition 2 attached to planning permission 17/01354/ful for the Demolition of a section of a single storey part of addition to a building and storage garage and shed: erection of single storey extensions and building of a detached storage facility. Consultation from 21 September.


17/01354/ful. Demolition of a section of a single storey part of addition to a building and storage garage and shed: erection of single storey extensions and a detached storage facility.


  • 49 Stanford Road 

17/04460/FUL. Alterations; conversion to 2 one bedroom flats.

Consultation ends 12 October.


Crime Statistics

It’s good to see a drop in reported crimes to 7 in Norbury in the week of 14 to 17 September: common assault (2), criminal damage – vehicle (1), racial aggravation/harassment (1), shoplifting (1), theft from motor vehicle (1), theft Person (1).

The statistics for 19-25 September were 11: burglary residential (1), common assault (2), criminal damage (1), shop lift over £200 (3), theft of cycle (2), theft of (1) and from motor vehicle (1).

The weekly statistics are circulated by Norbury police team member PCSO 7238 Magdalena McCann.

Norbury.snt@met.police.uk. 020 8721 2477.

Don’t forget that even if it is not likely the police will be able to do anything, it is very helpful to report incidents as it helps them to build up a picture of what is happening and can lead to arrest of suspects.

Norbury drug dealer jailed for three-and-a-half years

A drug dealer living on Norbury Ave has been jailed for trying to supply 23 wraps of crack cocaine and 70 wraps of heroin.


Thousands see Norbury Labour posting re-filmed crime in Thornton Health

Thousands of people around the country have looked at a posting on the Norbury Labour twitter site showing a film of a crime in progress in Thornton Heath.








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Knitting Norbury Together meeting dates



Love  Norbury – Knitting Norbury Together Meeting Dates:  September – December


Norbury Library

Saturdays at 10.30am*



St Philip’s Church

Fridays at 10.30am*


Moon Under Water


9 September









Every Monday

from about 7pm





30 September



6 October


14 October



20 October


28 October**



3 November


11 November



17 November


25 November



1 December


9 December



15 December

*We usually meet for about an hour – come when you can

** This meeting is booked for 2.30pm as another group has already booked the morning. 

Love to Knit?  Want to learn?  Knitting Norbury Together is a friendly informal group of all ages and backgrounds who enjoy knitting and crocheting and a good natter.   Most of  our knitting is for public display – you may have seen us at the Love Norbury in Bloom Community Festival in June. It doesn’t cost anything – we can provide some wool. Just come along to one of the get togethers advertised above.  You will be sure of a warm welcome. Contacts:  brenda@brendaenglish.co.uk or  ann.creighton@btopenworld.com



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